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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of young men

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we were children our parents told us

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that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon stripler join me as i

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examine

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unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations and remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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lon strickler coming to you within a

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uh and for those folks in the chat

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uh if you have questions about bigfoot

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other cryptids or

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any unexplained phenomena well this is

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friday this is our new segment so

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let the members of the fans of monsters

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so uh it's been a busy week i mean it's

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been some crazy stuff going on now as

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many of you know

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i i'm working on a new case and i talked

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in the ash line editing segment um

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this supposed injured cold

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incident uh an individual who's been an

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associate of mine who lives in

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queens new york got a call from his

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friend

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who lives north in upstate new york

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uh in hartwick new york now

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what happened was she had seen she was

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it was dark but she had seen a dark

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winged humanoid the former dark wing

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and of course the frightener she know

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what it was so she came running in the

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and she gave hit this guy my friend my

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associate her friend to call

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and uh because she he was in the

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paranormal and uh

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she told him what she saw and as they

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the call waiting came up and on the

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screen it said

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injured cold and there was no phone

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no other information she answered the

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and this guy on the other end of the

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phone on the other end of the line said

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do not tell anybody about what you just

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my name is kindred cole but she freaked

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and she told her associate what had just

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and this was no more like 20 minutes

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well as she was talking to the associate

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you're cold

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well she didn't answer this time so

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he drove up there the other day and he's

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up there and he's investigating this so

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if uh i know he's gonna write up a

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give us an idea what's going on i've got

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other team members who may be able to

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to help out if he needs it but this is

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something that may take some

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time to look into you know i talked to

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dr raymond keller the other night and he

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government thing

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the derenberger sightings near parker

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um west virginia where this whole

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and a lot of people don't know this

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because this was in november 1966

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so this was about the time it's the walt

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man sighing started

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in point pleasant with perkinsburg's

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about 55 miles north of there

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and uh a lot of people don't know

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that they were mothman wing humanoid and

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ufo sightings in the parkerberg area

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so uh yeah that's what we're working

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you know i've got raymond involved with

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this and of course my associate

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and we've got a team who knows about it

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if anything comes up

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we'll we'll keep you informed on it so

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i welcome fans of monsters 40 research

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investigators

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carter bouchard and marcus ellis tell

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arcane ready for discussion

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uh recent investigations and reports of

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and paranormal happens now marcus

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conducts most of his work in the state

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of mississippi

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after seeing the patterson bigfoot film

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the legend of bogey creek as a kid he

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has studied the world of sasquatch ever

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is one of the lead investigators for the

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mississippi based research group

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m-b-e-e-s-t or m-best which is

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mississippi

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carter has been an investigator with

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bfro for about 12 years

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originally from texas he currently lives

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he's had over 75 reports published in

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bfo

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our website he's telling me now it was

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almost it was

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over 90 now i think and he has

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interviewed over 200 witnesses and

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counting he is an experienced

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outdoorsman trained

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as an investigator for mufon he

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studied hertology in college long time

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special interest in sasquatch long-term

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habituation sites

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burial research infrasound language and

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and stick structures and carter's recent

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book is titled sasquatch evidence of an

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enigma and i

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believe you should get that you're

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involved with bigfoot because

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it's got a lot of interesting

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information there so guys

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thanks for coming on the show tonight

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thanks for having me

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hey thanks for having us

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so uh i guess we all start out and i

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guess we're going to talk a bit about

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bigfoot before we start

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uh answering some you know some of the

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questions that are in here so

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carter why don't you tell some folks

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what you've been working on i know

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you're you're doing your second book now

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uh what's some what's some of the stuff

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of interest

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well uh the second book it's going to be

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enigma too basically uh but uh it's

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more uh metaphysical

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it may or may not include your standard

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you know bigfoot road crossing but

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uh the people are coming out of the

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woodwork now with some

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off-the-wall stuff and it's a stuff that

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nobody else will touch

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you know the main reporting agencies

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don't want to touch it if it's got any

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kind of paranormal

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i really hate that word it's a dirty

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word but anyway so

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that's what i'm gathering and some of it

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is just like

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what you know uh but uh

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it it's crazy stuff people need to hear

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this you don't have to necessarily

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believe

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any of this stuff but you have to at

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least consider it because we're banging

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our heads against the wall with a dumb

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ape in the woods theory so we got to

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keep moving

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and you know come up with some other

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excellent so marcus what have you been

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well um with covid and everything i

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haven't been able to get with

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you know doug and karen randall who are

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the the founders of mbest

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i think they've been out in the field a

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little bit uh you know on their own

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and i've done a little bit on my own but

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and i didn't know this about carter but

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uh we kind of have something else in

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um i'm a big uh a mufon field

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investigator and i've been doing more

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i've been doing more ufo investigations

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for mufon

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than i have anything else all year so

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uh with covid doing the damage that it's

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thank you um uh mufon has had me rolling

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we don't get a lot we don't get a lot of

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bigfoot stuff and cryptic stuff because

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i don't know people in mississippi i've

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said this before and i'll say it again

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people down here they're really reticent

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about

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really they're really private

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but now if if there's a ufo sighting

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people tend to be a little more open

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here in mississippi and we'll talk about

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that so

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uh they've kept me and my fellow field

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investigators with mufon they've

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they've had us hopping so but i haven't

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had a couple of weird things happen in

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the bigfoot

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yes yes pascagoula i've come across some

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things

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that never made mainstream news

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that that i've been looking into so uh

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bigfoot's uh he's alive and well in

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i say that all the time too and i've had

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some some recent activity

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so he they haven't gone anywhere that's

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that's for certain

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yeah well we're coming into the season

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now of course it's

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fairly warm down you all boo arden right

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now and you know it's it's not bad here

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i mean it's been warm

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and uh you know people can start getting

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out there and start seeing stuff

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and you're right the ufo sightings have

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pretty steady the whole way through this

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gowdy thing uh butch has been busy as

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hell i mean i have been here

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in pennsylvania with uh with sightings

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uh and i have had sightings down in

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mississippi i've had people

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telling me about things they've seen so

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you know that area has been pretty busy

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even over the years

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so well you know like i said

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uh and you know carter you mentioned

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with the

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uh we were talking about this before the

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show about the supernatural aspect of uh

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this phenomena of bigfoot even other

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cryptids as well

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yeah uh i

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i like most most people in this field

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now

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think that there is a connection in the

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paranormals and i'm talking about all

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kinds of things

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you know ufos uh

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ghosts anything as far as crypt is good

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there's some type of connection

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somewhere uh

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a lot of times you'll get into an

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investigation something else just pops

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up

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like huh didn't see that coming you know

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you know just like with the uh

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the wing humanoid settings now we're

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getting ufo and

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other humanoid settings associated with

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it and you know that's been going on for

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years with bigfoot so

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interesting yeah and i i

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from the last book i got a guy contacted

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my website and i've just

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finished writing up his story he had a

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sasquatch corner him and his dog

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and he basically had six hours of

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missing time

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and so that's a conundrum in and of

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itself

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uh you know he was working on his house

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he's he's adding on to his uh

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cabin uh up in the you know the hills i

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can't say where but he

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he's got a nice cabin his wife was

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pregnant at the time they had a newborn

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already

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so he had moved her out of the house and

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moved a travel trailer onto his property

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so he could stay there

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and scab off the electricity because

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everything was turned off in the house

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so he's gathering up the tools and he's

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kind of subcontracting this so in the

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mornings all workers show up and he you

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know

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delegates you go here you go do this and

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all that so he's putting his tools away

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it's about 11 11 30 one night

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and he had some activity but it's few

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and far between but this

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ten foot squatch just appeared uh

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made a noise came out of the woods and

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it was about 11 30 he could see him full

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moon

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at night there's some you know lights

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around the property it started walking

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toward him so he freaked

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and grabbed his dog 110 pound german

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shepherd that was

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cowering and didn't want to go anywhere

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near it they ran into the

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trailer uh he realized he didn't have a

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weapon with him he went through the

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drawers grabbed a

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carving knife he locked himself in the

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bathroom with his dog

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with a knife pointed out like this at

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the door just waiting for him to come in

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and that was about 11 30 and

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he awoke at 5 30 the next morning

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in the same position he was in and his

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dog

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was still out his uh he was in a transit

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he was his eyes were open

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and when he stood up he realized i

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don't feel like i've been in the same

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position for six hours i feel like

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refreshed and

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like it just happened you know overnight

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i mean

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in a split second so but he had six

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hours

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of missing time and a sasquatch was

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i have suggested that he go to do some

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regression hypnosis to maybe perhaps

383
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find out because i've done regression

384
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hypnosis and i found out a lot of stuff

385
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that i was unaware of so it's not that

386
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bad you just got to find the right

387
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people to do it but that that's the

388
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first one that i've

389
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taken where

390
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he had missing time with the sasquatch

391
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you know i've heard of the report

392
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obviously with missing time and you know

393
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alien abductions and the you know the

394
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genetics and all all the stuff they're

395
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doing you know but this was just really

396
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bizarre and he's

397
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very moved by it he wants to find out

398
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he's very troubled

399
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and i told him you know if you find out

400
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what happened

401
00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,519
it'll be less stress than you

402
00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:51,600
wondering about it for the next 20 30

403
00:14:54,629 --> 00:14:52,560
years of your life

404
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just find out what it was and and deal

405
00:14:56,870 --> 00:14:56,079
with it if it's too painful and too

406
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traumatic

407
00:15:02,550 --> 00:14:59,920
well we'll lay off a little bit you know

408
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do it in steps but it does work you know

409
00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:04,480
i've been under twice with dolores

410
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cannon bless her heart

411
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rest in peace she's a great lady she was

412
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and uh

413
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her daughters are still running her

414
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operation down there in arkansas

415
00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:15,600
anyway that was a unique report and we

416
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both are like

417
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scratching their heads because you know

418
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there's that six hours of missing time

419
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and he has no explanation

420
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well there is one he's just gonna have

421
00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:28,399
to dig for it you know pretty cool stuff

422
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:31,279
well you know i've heard this situation

423
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before you know

424
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and um you know that all comes back to

425
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what people think bigfoot really is is

426
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it some type of non-trustual being you

427
00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:43,279
know i had a um

428
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i had an habituations uh uh

429
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case i was working on nova scotia

430
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and the guy who owned the farm

431
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uh who's deceased now unfortunately uh

432
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he had the same thing he was missing

433
00:16:03,829 --> 00:15:59,920
time

434
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,839
sighting of the bigfoot

435
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,680
he would have missing time he wouldn't

436
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:07,279
he didn't know what happened

437
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:09,120
he'd always find himself laying in bed

438
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,320
and waking up

439
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:12,000
almost like it was like a dream but it

440
00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:13,920
wasn't you know of course

441
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:17,360
but yeah it is weird you know we had a

442
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:18,880
discussion

443
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:25,120
in the chat about why do the

444
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:29,199
eyes of the bigfoot shine the way down

445
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:29,839
you know

446
00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:33,040
is it related to uh uh

447
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the um you know just like with dogs and

448
00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,839
other animal cats where they have the

449
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,680
reflective

450
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,440
gather you know the gathering light

451
00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:42,959
reflective uh

452
00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:44,639
part of the retina where it actually

453
00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:46,240
shines back uh

454
00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:48,839
do you think this that you think this is

455
00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:51,279
something similar to that or you think

456
00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:52,000
it may be

457
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:58,959
with the eye glows well the glowing eyes

458
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:01,519
you've got two different categories i

459
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:02,880
glow and i shine

460
00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:06,880
i glow they produce their own light

461
00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:09,199
and i shine is reflective it's ambient

462
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:10,799
light headlights or a flashlight or

463
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:11,439
whatever

464
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,160
so i have seen them up in iowa on a

465
00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:15,919
nighttime expedition

466
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,959
uh i've seen the beams

467
00:17:22,309 --> 00:17:21,360
coming out of the eyes hitting the

468
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:22,319
ground

469
00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:25,919
it was white but they were

470
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,439
there was a beam coming out i mean it

471
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:29,360
just it is what it is

472
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:31,200
and so there's no ambient light we're in

473
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:32,320
the middle of the woods in the middle of

474
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,960
nowhere

475
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,480
you know so there's no ambient light

476
00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:36,160
there's no headlights campfire

477
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:40,360
lanterns nothing so that was

478
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,840
self-produced how they do it

479
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,559
don't know you know uh i i've getting

480
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:48,080
i've got several reports on the new book

481
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,480
where

482
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,799
they've got red light uh red eyes in

483
00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:52,400
there in broad daylight

484
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:54,720
and they're seeing the eyes go on now so

485
00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:55,520
i i

486
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i'm trying to decide if it's a a stress

487
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,960
situation that triggers this you know

488
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:02,880
like an alarm thing where they just you

489
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:04,160
know they get stressed and hyper and

490
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:04,720
they're

491
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:10,400
they don't know what to do but the eyes

492
00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,600
got red

493
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and it was generated it was daylight and

494
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there was nothing to reflect off of it

495
00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:17,840
was in a forest and

496
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:20,080
this guy and his father watched this

497
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,760
creature it was do all kinds of

498
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gymnastics but

499
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there's two different kinds so they can

500
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produce it or it's reflective

501
00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:28,400
you know and the stuff where they're

502
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producing the light

503
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:32,640
there's something there that's just you

504
00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:33,520
know

505
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,799
you can't make that up especially if

506
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you've seen them there's people who have

507
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seen

508
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the beams coming out i was with four

509
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:40,880
other people so

510
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it's there either we're all nuts

511
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stoners or it's happening

512
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you know we all took a vote it happened

513
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you know i mean it was like holy crap

514
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you know

515
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yeah so some so marcus what's your

516
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:04,549
again i i'm gonna have to lean it

517
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towards the

518
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to being a little bit of both uh

519
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:11,200
now the reports that i've heard and and

520
00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:12,880
gotten here in mississippi

521
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is more i shine i haven't talked to

522
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:16,080
anyone

523
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,120
it's been more eyes shine

524
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but as we started talking earlier in

525
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this you know the show

526
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,840
um you know that back in the day they

527
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,160
used to refer to this in the ufo world

528
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:34,320
as high strangeness

529
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,000
and you know uh i always bring up john

530
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,880
keel john keel when when he got started

531
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,080
looking into

532
00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:44,480
well mothman and all these other things

533
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,240
that he started looking into of course

534
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:48,960
he really started out with ufos you know

535
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,360
he was a nuts and bolts guy these things

536
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:53,200
are nuts and bowls

537
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,440
but he started getting off into it

538
00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,520
and then the next thing he knows he's

539
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:01,919
dealing with poulter guys he's dealing

540
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:02,640
with

541
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:07,039
cattle mutilations

542
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:10,799
so it's

543
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:15,200
big bigfoot winds up in that bag

544
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:20,559
and you know what what do you make of it

545
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:24,400
heck if i know but the important thing

546
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:24,720
is

547
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,600
as carter pointed out you can't take

548
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:28,880
this

549
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:32,159
and sit that over here

550
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,799
and go i'm not gonna fool with that i'm

551
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:37,039
just gonna fool with this

552
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,840
if you do that you're not an

553
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,200
investigator

554
00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:43,520
you're not a researcher you've made your

555
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:45,679
mind up you've solved the case

556
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:48,799
time to pack it in and go home and i'm

557
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:49,840
an investigator

558
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,880
i'm a researcher so uh

559
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,559
i mean goodness lawn that's like the

560
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,640
case that you had me look into with the

561
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,640
gentleman

562
00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:00,960
who who had bigfoot on his property

563
00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:02,320
remember that case you

564
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,880
let me look into he had bigfoot on his

565
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:06,000
property

566
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,520
he had all type of ghost activity in the

567
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:10,799
house

568
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:15,280
uh then he leaves and joins the military

569
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:18,400
he he witnesses at 30 000 feet

570
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:23,120
a ufo he's in his bedroom in nashville

571
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,880
tennessee he wakes up at three o'clock

572
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,919
in the morning

573
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,159
and there's a gray standing there you

574
00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:30,720
know in the corner of the room

575
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,000
this is one guy but he had all these

576
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,159
things happen to him

577
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:39,520
in the course of his life so you you

578
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:41,039
can't

579
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:43,360
oh like hell's gate i always talk about

580
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:44,480
hell's gate

581
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,600
again mk davis introduced me to hell's

582
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,360
gate he took me out there

583
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,360
and the first one of the first nights we

584
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:53,919
were there we have got concrete

585
00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:57,280
in the bag bigfoot activity going on

586
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,880
so i started going out there on my own

587
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:01,760
where these three

588
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:08,390
name it i've had it happen residual

589
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:09,520
hauntings

590
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:12,880
uh a demonic encounter uh

591
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:16,240
wood knocks name it

592
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:19,520
ufo activity name it and i've

593
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,159
experienced

594
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,960
it at this one spot and it all it all

595
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,720
sprang from

596
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:27,760
going there following a hunch thinking

597
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:28,320
that it's

598
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,880
it's bigfoot and and i believe that it

599
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:32,240
is

600
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,039
other activity

601
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,120
yeah so you can't you can't be an

602
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,280
investigator and close the door

603
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,440
uh you got to take it all in and you got

604
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,549
that's correct you know it's kind of

605
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:50,400
like um just like here in

606
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:54,880
gettysburg we get a lot of bigfoot

607
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,000
reports on the battlefield ufo reports

608
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:00,480
it's almost like they're attracted to

609
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:01,760
all the spirit energy

610
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:05,200
on the battlefield uh it's weird i mean

611
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,520
i

612
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:07,200
you know when you go out there you

613
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,799
almost sense

614
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,280
that there's something else out there

615
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,240
and i

616
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:14,400
of course i'm intuitive i kind of pick

617
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:15,360
up on that

618
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,960
but it's hard to explain uh we did get a

619
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:21,280
question here

620
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:24,480
uh indigenous people say you should

621
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:27,039
never look into the eyes of sasquatch

622
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,510
what do you think it is lore

623
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,320
and myth for sure with the indigenous

624
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:40,000
peoples and native americans

625
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:42,799
and and on up into canada and alaska

626
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:43,679
it's

627
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,760
gender generation whether it was

628
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:50,000
meant to scare the children to keep them

629
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,360
close to camp

630
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,279
or if it's a real thing i think they

631
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:55,279
really truly believe

632
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:58,880
that that is a form of betrayal

633
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,880
to look them in the eye because they are

634
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,320
to be worshipped in their

635
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:05,360
superior you know but that's how

636
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:08,480
mythology started you know yeah

637
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:11,039
yeah can you show me somebody who's been

638
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:11,919
struck down

639
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:15,039
and killed because you looked at a

640
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:15,840
sasquatch

641
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:18,880
you know i mean it it sounds frightening

642
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:19,440
and if

643
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,559
these glowing eyes and i've seen the the

644
00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,919
glowing eyes

645
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,520
uh we weren't looking at one another

646
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:27,039
they were looking down at the ground

647
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,159
because we could watch them they weren't

648
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,760
looking at me but we were looking at

649
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,640
them so

650
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,480
if there was some repercussion we didn't

651
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,880
get it you know but there was no direct

652
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:36,720
eye contact so

653
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,000
i think belief in that mythology

654
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:43,360
will certainly enhance the relationship

655
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,799
you have with the sasquatch if you come

656
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,799
face-to-face with look him in the eye

657
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,480
and maybe he will turn away and won't

658
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,480
look at him and sasquatch don't like to

659
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,159
be looked at they don't like to be

660
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:54,400
uh looked in the eye and i'm working

661
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,600
with a guy now

662
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:58,320
on the second book that is talking about

663
00:25:03,510 --> 00:24:59,440
this very thing

664
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:03,520
the avoid eye contact at all costs

665
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,200
uh because you know we have these

666
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:09,279
cameras we have boxes with eyeballs on

667
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:11,120
them we stick on trees

668
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:14,640
and they that's like sticking a

669
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:17,039
camera in your living room marcus or

670
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,320
lawn you stick a camera up in your

671
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:19,919
corner your living room how long before

672
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,960
you see it's there

673
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,480
well who's doing it who's spying on it

674
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:23,679
what are they looking at it's humans i

675
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,400
don't want you

676
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:27,520
so there's there's something

677
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:30,320
with native americans native americans

678
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,880
when

679
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,279
white men started taking their picture

680
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:35,600
i'm getting to a point i'm getting

681
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,120
uh they thought the camera lens stole

682
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,880
your soul

683
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,400
and that goes back right there's a

684
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,240
symbiotic relationship with with uh you

685
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,240
know native americans in sasquatch going

686
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,440
back

687
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:50,159
10 000 years 5 000. just pick a number

688
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,440
you know they're going to pick up

689
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:54,000
those belief systems you know and they

690
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,039
will shy away

691
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,520
and native americans hated having their

692
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,960
picture taken

693
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,960
because i think many of them had to go

694
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:02,320
get cleansed

695
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:05,600
or had some prayers told over them or

696
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:06,799
for them

697
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:09,120
if they had their pictures taken you

698
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,000
know

699
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,559
uh not all tribes but anyway i think

700
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,080
that whole thing with the eye

701
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,760
and looking in the eye and we have a

702
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,520
camera with a

703
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:19,679
eyeball on it and a tree that is their

704
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,640
living room

705
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:23,520
you know there's probably is some truth

706
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,159
to that

707
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,360
or a belief system you know but

708
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:30,159
i have not heard anybody that has been

709
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,880
injured or

710
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:32,880
even heard about it i haven't maybe

711
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:36,159
marcus has i haven't heard anything but

712
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:41,990
if i was worried about looking in the

713
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,909
i i haven't heard of that either carter

714
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,960
i mean i i yeah

715
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:50,559
you know i've i've never heard that

716
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,000
neither but but usually

717
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,039
that being said

718
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:00,000
when when a lot of people encounter

719
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,520
sasquatch

720
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,919
especially someone who is not looking

721
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:04,559
for them

722
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:07,120
a lot of times when you're like us a lot

723
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,960
of times when you're investigating and

724
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,360
you're going and looking

725
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:12,880
most of the time you don't find you

726
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:15,440
don't see bigfoot it's the people who

727
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,640
who happen upon him or bigfoot happens

728
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:20,320
upon them

729
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,480
but uh is is it it's it's tough enough

730
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,000
for a lot of people

731
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:28,960
when they do see bigfoot when they

732
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:29,760
realize

733
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,799
they are looking at something that their

734
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:35,039
mom and dad that their teachers

735
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:38,880
and their college professors told them

736
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,080
that does not exist that creature

737
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,399
does not exist that's that's a legend

738
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:45,760
that's a myth

739
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,640
but when you talk to witnesses when you

740
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:50,880
listen to witnesses

741
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,080
i saw this thing it was eight feet tall

742
00:28:03,269 --> 00:27:57,279
it was as wide as my refrigerator and it

743
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:03,279
looked like it was staring into my soul

744
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:07,039
i i mean it's a life-changing experience

745
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:10,720
yeah and uh you know it

746
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:14,240
i mean that's enough i mean

747
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:17,919
people are just gobsmacked when they

748
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:18,399
when they

749
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,909
yeah they are and and you know i've got

750
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:29,520
a guy that's going to be in

751
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,480
i'm working on his story uh now he was

752
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:33,600
25 feet away

753
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,240
staring at a sasquatch and this thing

754
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,000
had this

755
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,320
the joker kind of smile it was just this

756
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,080
big grin it was looking right at him

757
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,880
just standing right there and they were

758
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:45,679
looking

759
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,440
eye to eye nothing happened now maybe

760
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:52,320
the sasquatch doesn't have those skill

761
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:53,120
sets maybe

762
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,159
he didn't feel threatened so he didn't

763
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,960
zap the guy you know and that's another

764
00:29:01,430 --> 00:29:00,559
thing you know looking into the eye of a

765
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,440
sasquatch

766
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,520
you could be a form of transmitting

767
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,919
zapping or infrasound

768
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:08,159
uh not that you really need that because

769
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,919
they can affect you with that

770
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,799
without you being anywhere physically

771
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,840
close to them

772
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:16,080
you know i've i've had that my wife and

773
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,120
i had that

774
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:20,000
i've experienced that at a distance yeah

775
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:21,039
i have too

776
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:25,440
uh yeah so um so somebody could say

777
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:31,190
yeah i'm sorry carter go ahead no go

778
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,990
well i was just gonna say that that like

779
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:37,360
you and your wife

780
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,480
i've experienced uh infrasound i mean

781
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:42,880
you know we're asking about the eyes and

782
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:43,679
talking about

783
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:46,559
what a bigfoot's eyes can do to to you

784
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:47,520
or whatever

785
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:50,559
uh but infrasound to me is

786
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,000
is i don't know it

787
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,200
i'll use the word tangible but but

788
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,159
it's a lot more reported uh i've

789
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,320
experienced infrasound

790
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,760
at least three times uh one time

791
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,640
uh these things were way off we never

792
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:09,840
saw them

793
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:12,880
but again i was with mk davis and we

794
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,720
both at the same time the same this is

795
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:17,760
like our you know

796
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,720
mid-morning we're investigating this

797
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:23,440
place out around belzona mississippi

798
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:27,600
and we both got violently sick

799
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,200
violently sick at the exact same time

800
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,559
and and you know you can sit there and

801
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,039
go okay well they must have stopped at

802
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,200
mcdonald's and got bad breakfast at the

803
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:38,960
same time together

804
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:43,600
we didn't now mk stopped at mcdonald's

805
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:46,799
i had breakfast at home so we weren't

806
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,559
both sick because of what we ate

807
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,720
it it was there was activity going on

808
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:55,120
around us and we got zapped

809
00:31:02,710 --> 00:30:59,679
and i've been in a location by myself

810
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:02,720
and the minute i got out of my car i

811
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,640
mean the split second i stepped out of

812
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:05,840
my car

813
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,080
i had an overwhelming sense of fear

814
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,519
i was terrified i mean just absolutely

815
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:14,720
from head to toe

816
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:18,159
i almost just got back in my car and

817
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,600
went home

818
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,159
but i was like no you you're an

819
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:24,000
investigator you need to

820
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,080
suck it up a little bit and let's let's

821
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:27,440
push forward

822
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,000
but it was terror i mean sheer terror

823
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,120
yeah it is totally unnatural

824
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:36,799
yeah now the same for me you know i've

825
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,279
been i took my wife

826
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:42,000
to one of my research areas and we were

827
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:42,799
both

828
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,080
zapped yet we

829
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:49,440
both had completely different reactions

830
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:52,880
not like unmk where you both got ill

831
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:55,600
i mean she was freaked out from the

832
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:56,720
moment we got there

833
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:58,880
she had that you know that creepy you

834
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:00,240
know

835
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,480
tingly something's looking at me i i

836
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,600
want to get out of here right now this

837
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,960
is just this area is creeping me out

838
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:06,880
it's my research area one of them

839
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:09,840
and it's very active it's a good place i

840
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,559
on the other hand

841
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,399
we parked our car at the very top of

842
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
this hill it's undrivable they have a

843
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,640
big steel gate that you park in front of

844
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,320
and you walk down about 100 yards to

845
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,240
where i was going to take her

846
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,000
and so because i wanted to show her this

847
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,760
area where i had a a

848
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,200
thermal sighting you know a few years

849
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,760
back so as we're walking down there

850
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:30,159
she's freaking out she's stopping every

851
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,440
few steps i can't

852
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,880
there's something's wrong so i i just

853
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:34,399
you know i'm freaking out we need to get

854
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:35,600
out of here i believe you i believe you

855
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,320
let's just go

856
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,320
i said no no no just i won't take you

857
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:39,600
down here it's okay nothing's gonna

858
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,159
happen

859
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,760
i kind of feel it too but i'm used to

860
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:44,159
this and so look our car is right up

861
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:44,799
here

862
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,519
going just out of habit because that's

863
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:57,120
the only place i thought i looked down

864
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,640
at the bottom of this ravine which is

865
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:00,880
blocked by a steel gate

866
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:04,080
i'm seeing my car i'm going

867
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,600
well how'd our car get down there now

868
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:07,120
she's freaking out even worse because

869
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:08,000
she's going

870
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:09,679
our car's not there it's up there i

871
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,279
looked up there i said no it's not it's

872
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,799
gone and she's looking up there and i'm

873
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,000
shining my light

874
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:16,880
it's not there i said she said yes it is

875
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,519
it's there i'm going no it's down here

876
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,080
and then i look back up and there it was

877
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,399
where it should be i looked back down

878
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,640
and it was not there where wasn't in the

879
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:28,799
first place

880
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,919
i was turned around so but

881
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:33,279
i knew what was happening but at the

882
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:35,200
same time i was going i couldn't believe

883
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,080
my eyes and

884
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:37,519
i know what's going on this is they're

885
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,880
just messing with me but they were

886
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:39,600
messing with me

887
00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:43,120
thing is uh

888
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:47,240
infrasound two people a foot apart

889
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,840
completely different reactions i'm

890
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:52,240
hallucinating

891
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:55,360
something i even know isn't happening

892
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:55,760
but

893
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:59,600
it was real and she is just totally free

894
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:01,039
to get that creepy vibe someone's

895
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:02,480
looking at me someone's stalking me

896
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:03,919
someone's here you know i mean

897
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:07,120
it so two different things like ron

898
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,000
moorhead uh

899
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:10,720
you familiar with his uh sierra sounds

900
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:11,119
he

901
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,960
cans being ripped apart and thrown down

902
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:26,960
the mountainside they heard all their

903
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:29,760
tools and food and fire and everything

904
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,159
tint

905
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,639
everything being ripped to shreds when

906
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:34,960
it all died down it was quiet

907
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:38,079
they walk out everything's just like it

908
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:39,200
was

909
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:45,119
and they all heard it so that's not four

910
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:46,399
guys going crazy

911
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,919
there's four guys had heard something

912
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:49,760
and they were so is either mass hypnosis

913
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,240
or telepathy or mind speak or

914
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,800
infrasound you know and they all heard

915
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:55,599
that and

916
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,359
there was nothing there so they're not

917
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,200
spooked they're not freaked out because

918
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,800
they're in the dark all by themselves or

919
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,160
the big you know mean squatch

920
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:06,000
they're adult men they know what they're

921
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:07,680
seeing and what they're not seeing and

922
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:10,880
hearing and so how do you explain that

923
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,320
stuff away

924
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,640
you know ron warren i mean he's like the

925
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,400
salt of the earth and honest as they

926
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,599
come and

927
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,720
you know he doesn't care if you don't

928
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:20,640
believe them or not absolutely

929
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:24,240
how do you blow that off

930
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:25,839
and other stories just like it you know

931
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:27,440
well you know you know

932
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,640
you you that's right you can't

933
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:32,880
and you know he expounded on that in his

934
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:34,480
quantum bigfoot book

935
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,079
i don't know if either you guys have

936
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:38,240
ever read that but

937
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,190
it opened my eyes up it really did

938
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:48,160
it really did yeah now it's very

939
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:49,440
intriguing and you know

940
00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:52,880
uh the uh uh

941
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:56,839
oh there's a good question but uh the uh

942
00:36:01,109 --> 00:36:00,320
yeah a good question can be proven with

943
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,119
math

944
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:03,119
and the only way it can be disproven is

945
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,320
with math

946
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,560
according to wrong and it's true i mean

947
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:08,400
it's mathematical formula so you know if

948
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,800
you're

949
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,480
hypothesizing certain quantum things

950
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,640
that can happen with science physics

951
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,359
you know math uh math is the answer and

952
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,960
if you can if it's provable

953
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,480
with math because that's all that's a

954
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:20,160
universal language of all science

955
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:23,440
is math you know so you can only unprove

956
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,119
it you can't just so well that's baloney

957
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,520
show me that it can't happen i think

958
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,960
it's like you know einstein or max

959
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,079
planck or way back

960
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,440
you know the theorists come up with

961
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:38,400
the theories and they're proven to be

962
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,520
possible if not

963
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,560
probable so how do you blow something

964
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,760
off because you just

965
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,040
don't believe it that's too incredible

966
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,880
that's too much like star trek i mean

967
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:47,760
you know

968
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,359
yeah we had this every day

969
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:57,599
in the past did settlers acknowledge the

970
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,480
strange creatures

971
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,359
well yeah they did and i know that for a

972
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,079
fact i mean here in uh

973
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:06,000
southern pennsylvania and i lived in

974
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:07,200
maryland but you know

975
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:10,960
they had what they call the dwell and uh

976
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:14,960
basically it was what people got

977
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:18,000
an upright canine or a dog man and of

978
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:18,960
course

979
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,079
when the german settlers uh started

980
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,160
moving into the farms in southern

981
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:25,520
pennsylvania

982
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,119
and into western maryland all these dual

983
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,240
reports were coming

984
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,880
in you know of course a lot of people

985
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,320
thought they were talking about

986
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,320
werewolves or stuff that was part of the

987
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:38,640
lore in in old germany back in the old

988
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,760
country

989
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,480
but you know i have seen some i have

990
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,400
seen some uh

991
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,800
some of these stories that are pretty

992
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:47,680
frightening and

993
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,040
um you know it was uh you know it's

994
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:53,040
pretty well known around here

995
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,400
that these these things may have

996
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,839
happened of course you know we get these

997
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,320
sightings of pennsylvania pretty steady

998
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:00,560
so uh yeah what do you guys think about

999
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,680
with settlers and such and uh

1000
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,359
people that came into the colonies or

1001
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:08,160
even just beyond that

1002
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:11,920
well i i'm i'm friends with the

1003
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,800
native american uh the cherokee in

1004
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:15,520
oklahoma

1005
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:19,760
and uh he's got thousands of stories and

1006
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:20,079
i

1007
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:26,720
grandfather and an uncle

1008
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,320
and this was in the early 1900s

1009
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:31,839
and so but it goes further back than

1010
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,680
that you know uh

1011
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,839
you know they had no running water and

1012
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:37,359
no electricity so

1013
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:41,119
uh the uh grandfather was

1014
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:43,760
babysitting the uncle so the grandfather

1015
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,480
had to leave for a while 15 minutes to

1016
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:48,079
go down the creek get water and come

1017
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:48,880
back

1018
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:52,160
middle of nowhere

1019
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,359
you know on tribal land in oklahoma

1020
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:58,000
there's a sasquatch looking over his

1021
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:58,640
uncle

1022
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,560
in the crib just looking over

1023
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,280
the baby there's only one way in one way

1024
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:06,320
out

1025
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:10,079
he backed away said you may leave

1026
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,280
please get out of here there's a lot of

1027
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:13,280
screaming yelling but

1028
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,960
and that's in the early 1900s and it

1029
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,560
goes back you know again with the native

1030
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,440
americans and settlers you know and

1031
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:21,920
there's all kinds of you know mythology

1032
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:23,119
and folklore

1033
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,440
tales but you know the vikings and 1400s

1034
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:29,280
supposedly saw

1035
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,640
uh sasquatch wild hairy crazy

1036
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,520
wild men i believe it was more on the

1037
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,960
east coast i believe that's where they

1038
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,320
landed somewhere on the east coast i

1039
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,520
can't remember but

1040
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,440
they go back i cannot imagine that now

1041
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:43,119
the the only reason nobody knows about

1042
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,400
it really is

1043
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,000
there's no internet you got telegraph

1044
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:50,320
how do you telegraph now that did it did

1045
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:51,920
it says watch how do you do that you

1046
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,560
know so

1047
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,720
there's just no way to share those

1048
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:56,079
stories you know listen to somebody who

1049
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,440
goes to the newspaper and say hey i just

1050
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:59,119
saw this eight foot tall

1051
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,560
red haired something i don't know what

1052
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,560
it was you know

1053
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,400
well you're crazy bob i'm putting that

1054
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,000
in the store but it makes the papers

1055
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,440
anyway so

1056
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:09,119
you know that's out there i'm just not

1057
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,800
familiar but i know it's there

1058
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,640
you just brought great examples a lot i

1059
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:14,160
mean you know we all know it's

1060
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:17,200
it's part of our heritage you know

1061
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:20,480
yep how about a marcus well and and it's

1062
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:21,280
part of

1063
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,359
heritage too because

1064
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:28,160
when you talk to bigfoot researchers

1065
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:29,280
here in the south

1066
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:32,480
especially mississippi one of the first

1067
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,520
terms that you will hear a

1068
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,640
a a a bigfooter or other researchers

1069
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,160
like say uh

1070
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,560
you know lyle blackburn you know being a

1071
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,079
famous example

1072
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:47,200
you'll hear the term booger

1073
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,240
and i heard this expression

1074
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:52,880
when i was a little bitty boy coming up

1075
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:55,440
in lena mississippi

1076
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,079
you know you know i would hear my

1077
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,240
grandparents say

1078
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,960
you know talking to my mom go get marcus

1079
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,960
and bring him in before that booger gets

1080
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,680
him

1081
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:08,079
now as i grow up and getting i'm

1082
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:08,960
thinking about

1083
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:12,000
the boogeyman the you know uh but

1084
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:15,760
but i was hearing it remembering it

1085
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:17,520
wrong

1086
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:21,119
because if if you go back and you look

1087
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,480
you're you're scott irish people

1088
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,960
in in scotland and ireland and places

1089
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:29,200
like that

1090
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:33,440
what they refer to as a swamp was a bog

1091
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,960
so they had these creatures

1092
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:39,440
in england and scotland to this very day

1093
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:41,119
they have bigfoot sightings in these

1094
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,240
other countries

1095
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,480
well they would refer to these creatures

1096
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:46,960
as boggers

1097
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:51,839
so they get on board their ships

1098
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,680
they they they travel to the new land

1099
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:58,720
they come to america so

1100
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:01,760
their terminology their phrasing gets

1101
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:06,319
morphed and and kind of

1102
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,240
i don't know if twisted is the right

1103
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:09,839
word it's probably not but

1104
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,760
but it changes from bogger into booger

1105
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,920
and a lot of bigfoot researchers who

1106
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,760
have gone and looked into this

1107
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:20,560
that's where that word comes from so

1108
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:21,119
yeah the

1109
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:25,359
uh you know i'm irish my ancestors are

1110
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:26,160
irish

1111
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,240
uh and i've got indian blood in me as

1112
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:30,400
well but

1113
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,599
my my ken folk from ireland they brought

1114
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:35,040
that term

1115
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:38,880
into mississippi with them and i again

1116
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,440
uh that's that's what i remember hearing

1117
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,280
the old folks

1118
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,920
back in the old homestead talking about

1119
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:46,960
the booger

1120
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:51,040
hear that booger

1121
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,680
they're talking about bigfoot that's

1122
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:55,040
what they're talking about they're not

1123
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:56,960
talking about michael myers

1124
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:59,200
you know the boogeyman they're talking

1125
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,079
about

1126
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:03,119
those years

1127
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,880
it took me to becoming an investigator

1128
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:08,160
and a researcher

1129
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:11,599
to go have that light bulb pop on

1130
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,720
they were talking about bigfoot so

1131
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,520
so again yes to answer the the the

1132
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:18,960
person's question

1133
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,079
uh that does come from from

1134
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,640
across the sea and people who you know

1135
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:26,160
immigrated to america

1136
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,599
uh uh yeah absolutely

1137
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:31,359
i've never heard that i never heard that

1138
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,319
version before that's actually

1139
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,760
interesting is that you know

1140
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:35,280
you just i've always just thought it was

1141
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:36,560
an american word you know because you

1142
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:37,119
know

1143
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,680
call them yeah me too

1144
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,920
wood boogers and whatever you know so

1145
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,280
that's interesting

1146
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,920
yeah i've never i've never heard that

1147
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:49,200
that version before that's actually kind

1148
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,319
of interesting so

1149
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,079
it's cool to know you know yeah it's a

1150
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,560
trivia it's a bar yeah very much

1151
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,640
and say i bet you i know where booger

1152
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:58,720
come from

1153
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,480
that's cool so we got

1154
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,880
another question here why do you think

1155
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,680
there have been a spike in encounters in

1156
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:09,520
recent years well

1157
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:12,560
my thoughts are the internet

1158
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:15,680
and paranormal tv and i think

1159
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,640
because of that people people are much

1160
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,160
more open

1161
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:22,960
to coming forward and making reports now

1162
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:25,040
you guys may have different opinion

1163
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,160
but uh i i believe that maybe what's

1164
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,280
what's helping it anyway we think carter

1165
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:33,200
well i think more people in the woods i

1166
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,400
think

1167
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,119
technology the uh cell phones are

1168
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,079
getting better

1169
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,920
although they're all really block swatch

1170
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,000
photos the cameras are getting good

1171
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,560
you know that photo i showed you guys is

1172
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:46,880
proof that you can get

1173
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,319
something on a camera you know so they

1174
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,839
they do make cameras they can do that

1175
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,119
work and you just have to be in the

1176
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,480
right place at the right time

1177
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:57,440
to have your camera ready and so uh you

1178
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:58,000
know

1179
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,760
that i think and people are more

1180
00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:01,119
interested in this because i think a lot

1181
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,839
of people have

1182
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,119
questions even though they say they

1183
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,720
don't believe in it or they don't really

1184
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:06,160
pay attention to it i think they really

1185
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,760
do a lot of people do

1186
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,839
they go could you really could there be

1187
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,359
an eight or nine ten foot creature

1188
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,480
walking around

1189
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,280
no no let's go let's take a look i mean

1190
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,280
you know i think people are open to it

1191
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,440
if nothing else because technology is

1192
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:21,440
getting to the point where

1193
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,560
you can't dismiss it you know look at

1194
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,800
the tic tac video they did not deny the

1195
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,520
ufos for what 80 years humiliated people

1196
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,720
ruined their lives

1197
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,160
and all of a sudden we see the tic tac

1198
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,760
videos oh yeah we've known about it for

1199
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,880
quite a while

1200
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:37,440
so it's gonna be the same with sasquatch

1201
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,079
dna

1202
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:40,960
and technology is gonna answer it plus

1203
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880
boots on the ground people in the woods

1204
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,200
i'm a i'm a boots on the ground guy i'm

1205
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:47,040
out there i'm getting dirty i love it

1206
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,760
you know

1207
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,680
i love talking to the people but yeah i

1208
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:51,280
think people are actually interested in

1209
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,160
it more than

1210
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:54,319
they let on and that's why this fight

1211
00:46:04,790 --> 00:45:57,760
plus it's seasonal too you know

1212
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,990
carter is absolutely of course right

1213
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,079
uh but i also go back to what you said a

1214
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,119
little while ago lon

1215
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,240
the atmosphere in in

1216
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,640
the united states has changed like

1217
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:20,000
carter pointed out

1218
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,800
years ago if you said you saw a ufo or

1219
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,240
you saw bigfoot

1220
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,720
uh you better be running somewhere

1221
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:28,480
because the guys in the little white

1222
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:29,680
coats are fixing to come

1223
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:32,720
pack you up you're you're done

1224
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:35,839
um but today and

1225
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:39,119
this is what's funny every single

1226
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,560
mufon case that i have investigated

1227
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:45,200
one of my questions is well hey what

1228
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:46,000
what made you

1229
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,359
decide to report this to mufon

1230
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:51,839
well i seen this tv show uh the other

1231
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:52,480
night called

1232
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,599
unidentified and and and

1233
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:57,520
you know i've been watching this this

1234
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,640
this this cool drama show on the history

1235
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:02,960
channel called project blue book and

1236
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:06,560
i was looking into dr j allen heineck

1237
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,920
and you know i people are talking about

1238
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:12,480
it they're talking about the tic tac

1239
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:16,079
i don't feel alone now so the atmosphere

1240
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,200
has changed

1241
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:19,200
and that translates to what's going on

1242
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:20,400
in our government

1243
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,640
i'll use the word here for you it's

1244
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,640
called youth

1245
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:27,920
our young people who are

1246
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:31,440
coming up the younger generation

1247
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,440
they have been watching independence day

1248
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:36,720
they've been watching

1249
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,359
they're open their mind is open

1250
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:48,079
you know to to things that were once

1251
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,960
fantastical

1252
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,480
they're just more open-minded and i

1253
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,920
think that's creeping into our

1254
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,720
government

1255
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,800
i think it's creeping into uh the

1256
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:58,000
pentagon

1257
00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:59,839
i think that's there's just an

1258
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,000
atmosphere where

1259
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:04,559
now these people like the people that

1260
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:06,000
have come to me

1261
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,920
with mufon they don't feel like

1262
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,760
they they know that marcus is going to

1263
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,040
listen to them they know that that

1264
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:15,200
somebody at mufon

1265
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:18,319
sent marcus their way and marcus is not

1266
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:19,440
laughing

1267
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,480
he's serious so people

1268
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,319
are not as afraid in the morning it's

1269
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:26,240
because of the internet it's because of

1270
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:31,040
everything you said lawn yeah and more

1271
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,069
you know it's interesting when you see

1272
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:40,400
when you see these shows

1273
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:43,359
uh on tv and then we talk you know talk

1274
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,630
you can of course when you get a when

1275
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:50,319
you get called say you get a telephone

1276
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,960
call

1277
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:52,880
or you you're answering the email you

1278
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,040
know you can tell when people

1279
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,000
are serious i mean you know yeah uh you

1280
00:49:02,230 --> 00:48:59,839
know they're not taking they're not

1281
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,240
for the most part they saw something or

1282
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:04,240
thought they saw something

1283
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,520
and there's just less hesitation to come

1284
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:08,960
forward now

1285
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,839
so uh yeah and you know it kind of runs

1286
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,599
into this other question

1287
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:15,200
what's the what do you think the future

1288
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,800
is sasquatch sasquatch research

1289
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,200
well i think you know like you said we

1290
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,800
got a lot of younger folks that are

1291
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,319
involved with this

1292
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,319
uh you know it's funny you mentioned

1293
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,839
star wars god i was just a kid when that

1294
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:30,400
started that was

1295
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,990
yeah so uh you know but um

1296
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,920
what do you think we think is the

1297
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,040
destiny of

1298
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:45,839
sasquatch research you know i i had

1299
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:46,160
think

1300
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:49,920
find a sasquatch say we do

1301
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:52,880
actually have absolute proof when these

1302
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,280
things

1303
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,160
exist you know i've seen one i had an

1304
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:58,400
encounter but you know there's a lot of

1305
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,040
people that

1306
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,960
that look for bigfoot have never seen

1307
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,119
one or let alone seeing the evidence of

1308
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:04,720
one

1309
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,760
if they find if it is found or the proof

1310
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:08,880
is there

1311
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:12,400
is the sasquatch phenomenon are people

1312
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:13,040
going to stop

1313
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,680
looking into it or are they going to

1314
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:17,280
expand

1315
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:21,839
into the research and to try to find

1316
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,760
something else that's related to it

1317
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,319
and i i think that's what may happen i

1318
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:30,480
think finding a bigfoot

1319
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:33,680
will kind of give us more info

1320
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,319
or more desire to look into the

1321
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,400
supernatural aspect of these things

1322
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:41,839
what do you all think i i agree uh you

1323
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,240
know

1324
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:44,240
like i said i think technology is really

1325
00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:45,599
gonna you know blow the lid off of this

1326
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:47,119
thing because you know we only see a

1327
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:47,920
very small

1328
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:50,559
a spectrum of of light you know every

1329
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,720
other animal on the planet

1330
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,960
can see better than we can than humans i

1331
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,480
mean insects

1332
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,720
fish every everything you know any man

1333
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,160
they they all are

1334
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,839
designed to operate at night they can

1335
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:03,359
see at night we can't we have to have

1336
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,839
little

1337
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,079
you know thermal cameras and goggles to

1338
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,000
help us see at night you know uh

1339
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,240
if we create cameras and things of that

1340
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,079
nature that can

1341
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:14,160
help us see the things tonight we're

1342
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:15,200
really missing i'm not even talking

1343
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,720
about thermal cameras i'm talking about

1344
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:17,599
you know

1345
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,440
that are

1346
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,040
are right there and we just can't see

1347
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,720
and we look but we can't see them i

1348
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,839
think the technology

1349
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,839
has to continue do they have these

1350
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:29,920
paranormal skills we're talking about

1351
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,480
quantum uh of course we'd have to

1352
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:33,599
probably

1353
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,720
talk to one or see one do these things

1354
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:38,880
no one's ever seen them make a structure

1355
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:41,040
you know but we know they're there you

1356
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,079
know we see them

1357
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,839
and they're not all made by people very

1358
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:45,280
few are actually probably made by people

1359
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:45,839
so

1360
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,559
we have to get into the the physiology

1361
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,079
and the psyche

1362
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:52,319
of the sasquatch you know and that you

1363
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,760
know i i've got witnesses that are

1364
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:55,200
talking about mind speak you know and

1365
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,640
i've done research a little bit for the

1366
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,960
books anyway as far as what you

1367
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,359
would actually hallucinate or think you

1368
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:03,119
see you have to have a certain type of

1369
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,079
mental condition

1370
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:06,559
to actually hallucinate unless you're on

1371
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,200
drugs

1372
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:09,760
you know in a cliff notes version but

1373
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:11,839
you know i think the technology

1374
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:13,520
and dna is going to blow it off we just

1375
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:16,960
have to once we have a body on a slab

1376
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:19,839
we can't let them say there you go they

1377
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,720
do exist

1378
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,800
now let's just drop it we'll protect

1379
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:24,240
them and put them in a little habitat

1380
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:25,359
over here and

1381
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:28,160
no keep digging what's all this other

1382
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,960
stuff

1383
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,440
that they're gonna they're gonna give us

1384
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,880
that like the tic tac video

1385
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,720
they give the tic tac video and was it

1386
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,160
three or four months ago

1387
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,800
promised us all these revelations well

1388
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,640
that's it they gave us a carrot

1389
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:42,000
we're still gonna be asking for this

1390
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:43,760
stuff at the end of the year we've got

1391
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:45,119
too many distractions covered and

1392
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,559
whatever you know the economy

1393
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,920
so same thing with you know the

1394
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,200
sasquatch they're going to give us a

1395
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,720
body on a slab and here they are

1396
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,559
okay you finally met it all these

1397
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:54,240
skeletons the smithsonian

1398
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:56,480
smithsonian stolen has deep buried in

1399
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,750
museum uh these are them so

1400
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:04,160
you got us we've known them about them

1401
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,960
we just want to make sure there's

1402
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,319
nothing else and that's it

1403
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,960
so we'll be spoon fed some garbage but

1404
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:09,920
we can't

1405
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,559
take that like we have with the tic tac

1406
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:13,920
videos you know they they feel

1407
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,720
something it's a bone oh goody they're

1408
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:17,920
real

1409
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,760
okay what else i mean you know expand

1410
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,359
oh that question there yeah the

1411
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,599
government knows

1412
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,480
yeah lumber companies know the forest

1413
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,880
service they all know

1414
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,319
and they're just waiting for us to get

1415
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:34,160
so close here they can't keep a lid on

1416
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:34,640
it

1417
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:38,000
can't know we

1418
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,800
we've got a drone on mars and you can't

1419
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,000
tell me that there's a creature

1420
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:44,480
living in our woods you know what i mean

1421
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,680
i mean yeah

1422
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,400
just don't even mommy look at my face

1423
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:50,240
slap you when you tell me that crap

1424
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:53,680
because it's just the joke you know

1425
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,720
well you look at my encounter in the uh

1426
00:53:59,829 --> 00:53:59,040
the authorities getting and feds getting

1427
00:54:02,870 --> 00:53:59,839
involved with

1428
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:02,880
that was 40 years ago yeah so

1429
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,790
it just defies logic they're definitely

1430
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,680
interested in it

1431
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:14,559
and um you know i have just seen so much

1432
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:15,520
evidence

1433
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:19,680
over the years that there is a distinct

1434
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:23,119
interest by whatever agencies involved i

1435
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,520
believe

1436
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,160
probably military more than anything as

1437
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:27,599
far as the bigfoot phenomena

1438
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:31,359
absolutely yeah well when people have

1439
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,720
gone missing

1440
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:35,119
and when you when you listen to like

1441
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,760
okay

1442
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:37,920
like for example now i'm not saying

1443
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:39,200
because i don't know

1444
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,400
i wasn't there i don't know but if you

1445
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,720
if you you know check out the the

1446
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:46,880
missing person case of the little boy

1447
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:48,319
dennis martin

1448
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:51,520
uh you know witnesses saw

1449
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:54,079
an upright creature carrying something

1450
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:54,720
over it

1451
00:55:03,109 --> 00:54:59,520
this young boy

1452
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,119
disappeared from you know a bear

1453
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,240
is not going to sling

1454
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,240
something over its shoulder and walk off

1455
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:10,400
you're you're talking either humanoid

1456
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:13,680
a human or you're you're talking bigfoot

1457
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:17,280
so once this child comes up

1458
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:20,559
really hardcore we know he's missing

1459
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,760
who shows up the green beret the green

1460
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,520
beret flies in

1461
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:28,000
they set up a separate a completely

1462
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:28,799
separate

1463
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,960
search area they have nothing to do

1464
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,559
with the volunteers the sheriff's

1465
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:37,040
department the the park officials

1466
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:41,040
the green beret search those woods for

1467
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:41,920
that boy

1468
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:45,680
all by themselves and refuse all contact

1469
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,549
crowd control called them to this day

1470
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:54,799
nobody knows

1471
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:58,240
but i think yeah so so there there's

1472
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,720
been

1473
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,480
lots of cases where people have had

1474
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:02,160
bigfoot sightings

1475
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:06,400
and then all of a sudden the military

1476
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,079
shows up yeah i've heard several

1477
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,240
so you know there have been stories yeah

1478
00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:14,400
absolutely and if you stop and think

1479
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:21,430
if you if you stop people if if your

1480
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:22,720
government

1481
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,599
admits hey there's this eight to ten

1482
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,280
foot tall creature

1483
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,000
that is again as big as my refrigerator

1484
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:32,160
roaming the woods

1485
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,920
are you going to be encouraged to go to

1486
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,720
your your your state and federal parks

1487
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,839
you're probably going to go i'm not

1488
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,920
going i'm not going to go to the woods

1489
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:41,440
and knowing there's something like that

1490
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:42,240
out there

1491
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,640
i think i think it's about money

1492
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:49,920
i think it would stop a lot of

1493
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:53,440
revenue yeah so yeah i

1494
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,960
i think the government knows that

1495
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:57,119
bigfoot exists and i don't think they're

1496
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:57,920
keen for that

1497
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,319
that information to get out either well

1498
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:02,400
if you take the 411 books

1499
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:08,309
take an overlay of the cave system in

1500
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,240
the united states

1501
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,799
and overlay it on a map of the 4-1-1

1502
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,559
missing

1503
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:17,440
heck of a close correlation with the

1504
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:18,079
missing

1505
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,760
and the cave system known

1506
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,839
and purported cave system you know

1507
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:25,520
there's certain ones they admit to and

1508
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,400
certain ones

1509
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:28,319
haven't even been explored yet but

1510
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:30,079
there's a massive cave system

1511
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:33,440
under under our feet you know

1512
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:37,200
so that could be you know there's just

1513
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,319
too many

1514
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:39,839
weird things and this is another thing

1515
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:41,839
with the research that you know pilates

1516
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,079
is doing and you know technology

1517
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:47,119
you know you just you have to and the

1518
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,799
forest service doesn't even report when

1519
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,440
people go missing in their own parks

1520
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:54,240
they're not required to well yeah what

1521
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,440
about like you know

1522
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,200
having a soul and caring about people i

1523
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:58,880
mean you know what what do you mean i

1524
00:58:02,069 --> 00:58:00,160
don't have to report it because

1525
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:02,079
we're not required to well how about you

1526
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:03,920
just like be square and honest with you

1527
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,400
yeah

1528
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,240
bob smith just disappeared he walked up

1529
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,480
there took his shoes off and you know

1530
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,839
disappeared and we've never seen him

1531
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:12,160
again we found his backpack in his shoes

1532
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,079
you know and he's folded up socks in his

1533
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:19,589
what is that you know a very clever and

1534
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:21,440
let me say that

1535
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:27,750
i mean and and i'm not i'm not saying

1536
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:31,839
that bigfoot is responsible for all

1537
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:33,520
these disappearances i'm

1538
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:35,920
probably cases where where bigfoot has

1539
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:37,599
done some of this i think if you

1540
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:40,880
if you come up on the the right

1541
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,000
bigfoot like any animal you know

1542
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:45,280
what what's going to happen to you if

1543
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:53,030
been there yeah you're done you're gonna

1544
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:54,319
end well

1545
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:57,760
you know yeah i mean i think if you

1546
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:00,960
you yeah yeah hey bear you know

1547
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,079
yeah it i it

1548
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:06,079
it it's too much to these missing people

1549
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,280
to all be bigfoot

1550
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:09,839
so it's not it's not all big yeah yeah

1551
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:11,200
no i don't think it's

1552
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:13,119
really much bigfoot related but my whole

1553
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,880
point is there's things going on and i

1554
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,319
know they know about that

1555
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,720
too and we're just being paid for

1556
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,319
limitless you know they

1557
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,920
there's something there you know i think

1558
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:23,599
very little of it that actually has to

1559
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,720
do with bigfoot but

1560
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,880
my point was just the things that are

1561
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:28,559
going on that the government

1562
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:30,319
in one form or fashion whatever

1563
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,079
department they are forestry service

1564
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,359
dns whatever they know

1565
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,880
and they just don't say anything because

1566
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:38,079
then we don't have to we're the

1567
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:39,119
government we don't have to tell you

1568
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,839
anything

1569
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,680
we don't want to yeah you know so

1570
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:43,200
there's all kinds of weird stuff

1571
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,760
going on you know paranormal ufo uh

1572
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,799
sasquatch

1573
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:49,119
you know mothman there's all kinds of

1574
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:50,480
stuff

1575
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,240
we're not all suffering from mass

1576
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:53,680
hysteria there's

1577
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,920
stuff going on and those of us just

1578
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,040
don't want to explain it

1579
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,480
well we just don't you know the the

1580
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:03,119
dummy side you know there's just gonna

1581
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:04,319
have an open mind and all this stuff

1582
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:04,799
just

1583
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:06,400
open the mind you don't have to believe

1584
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:07,839
just consider it

1585
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,440
just go well that's weird well i've

1586
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,040
heard that like 17 other times

1587
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:13,040
okay maybe there's something to that you

1588
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:15,040
know just keep it on the plate think

1589
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,480
about it you know

1590
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:19,839
so well

1591
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,760
look guys i appreciate you coming on

1592
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:23,440
tonight really good show

1593
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,559
very good discussion i i like this

1594
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:29,680
format where we chat involved with

1595
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:32,480
asking questions and uh kind of rolling

1596
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:33,760
off the answers

1597
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:37,119
as best we can so um once again i want

1598
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:39,760
to thank you all for coming on

1599
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:41,680
and i will definitely have you all come

1600
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:43,040
back uh

1601
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:45,040
this is gonna be a monthly thing and

1602
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:46,079
we're going to

1603
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:49,520
uh bring members of the team on and

1604
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:52,240
see if we can uh answer people's

1605
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:55,040
questions i i think people enjoy it so

1606
01:01:02,950 --> 01:00:56,480
you all take care and you have a good

1607
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:05,190
so uh if you have an unexplained

1608
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:06,000
encounter

1609
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,520
or sledding feel free to call and

1610
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:09,359
contact me through the phantoms of

1611
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:10,079
monsters blog

1612
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:11,760
site and i want to again thank carter

1613
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:14,480
bouchard and marcus ells for joining me

1614
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:15,839
this evening

1615
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,000
and thanks to each and all of you for

1616
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:19,839
watching and chatting

1617
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,559
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1618
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,640
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1619
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,559
your support is what makes all this

1620
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:28,319
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1621
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,040
subscribe and share so until next week

1622
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:35,920
and look next week is going to be an

1623
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,720
interesting mothman discussion

1624
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:41,200
uh i'm going to have to boss whalen and

1625
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:42,480
travis short

1626
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:46,480
coming in and we're going to

1627
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,400
dig deep into the mothman phenomena

1628
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:53,040
so uh like i said till next week stay

1629
01:02:04,829 --> 01:01:53,599
healthy

1630
01:02:04,839 --> 01:02:17,350
night

1631
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:42,420
[Applause]